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Author Topic: Scoop Witness Line? Rear Antenna Template?  (Read 1062 times)
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« Reply #30 on: March 13, 2010, 04:01:22 PM »

Both the '68 Shelby and GT/CS parts were made side by side at A.O. Smith.  This includes the fiberglass, and the metal parts, lke the grille, and fog light brackets, etc.  A.O. Smith secured the Marchal and Lucas lights, too.  They would load the GT/CS parts on pallets and railship them to Milpitas.  Comparing GT/CS--Shelby VINs between assembly plants is really a moot and irrelevant point, anyway.

The paperwork I have describes discussions about the "California Mustang" along with the Shelby parts, percentages, projected number of parts, etc.  I could go on and on....

But I've never said that the GT/CS was a Shelby.  It was a Ford project assigned to Shelby Automotive.  This was not the same as what happened at LAX; it was a FORD line of cars that they built just for California.  It's all about historical context, and how Ford saw these cars back then. No room for a value judgement 40 years later.

You can't catagorize the GT/CS as "nothing special".  It is what it is.  Thousands of owners have enjoyed them, and have seen a lot of attention while driving them.  And besides, they ARE special, because it says it right there on the body, not once, but twice!  LOL!

If you or anyone else want to get into comparisons, you'll stir up the Shelby Food Chain, and the 427 Roadster and Ford GT guys will be reminding everybody just where they stand.

Paul N.

Lucky for me that the Ford decided to build the CS? My 68 Shelby might not ever have come into being otherwise? Thanks for pointing it all out to us Paul.  Wink

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« Reply #31 on: March 13, 2010, 04:44:24 PM »

I have read this thread with amusement.  The 1968 GT/CS and HCS would not exist if it were not for the influence of the Shelby.  This does not lessen the niche that a GT/CS has provided and certainly they are followed, loved, and rare.  The 67 Shelby created the look for the fiberglass and the 1968 Shelby was certainly envisioned long before the GT/CS.  And it is obvious that the 1968 GT/CS was created from the Shelby image.  There are a couple of 428 CJ's in the GT/CS registry and they are "special" indeed!!!

It is obvious that the GT/CS fiberglass components are a copy of the Shelby fiberglass parts and the "look".  I love the look of my 1968 coupe with the GT/CS components.  Why the GT/CS registrar cannot see the obvious is comical.  The GT/CS is an extension of the Shelby look into a coupe to boost sales in a slumping market.  Nothing more, nothing less.  When he writes it almost seems like he thinks the opposite!

And the thought that the new Shelby's are the result of the new California Special offering from Ford....  Brother……  I cannot imagine that anyone at Ford saw the new platform for the Mustang was an obvious platform to build a 1967/68 Shelby "look alike".  Whew, glad someone poked them into seeing that connection and profit!!

Give me a break.....  By the way, the jury is still out on the earliest VIN for a GT/CS.  Research is not complete.  Also, the 1968 Shelby GT-500 KR I owned in 1975 had the rear mount antenna.  Round base and looked very similar to a front antenna…..  Been a long time….. 

Back to my popcorn……

Rob


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« Reply #32 on: March 13, 2010, 08:32:02 PM »



I found an original KR conv. to measure.  Original sheetmetal, hole, etc....

I always share any GT/CS crossover info with Shelby--to SAAC.

-Paul.

Isn't taking measurements from a car built 3000 miles away a moot point also?
 We know the differences between plants varies alot .

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« Reply #33 on: March 13, 2010, 09:22:19 PM »

+ one and duh........



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« Reply #34 on: March 13, 2010, 09:28:50 PM »

My concern is the antennas were dealer installed. From what I have seen, there is a great deal of variation in the locations of the holes. Measuring one or two cars will put you in the ballpark. I am guessing there was a template, but i have never seen it.

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« Reply #35 on: March 13, 2010, 10:36:08 PM »

My concern is the antennas were dealer installed. From what I have seen, there is a great deal of variation in the locations of the holes. Measuring one or two cars will put you in the ballpark. I am guessing there was a template, but i have never seen it.

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« Reply #36 on: March 13, 2010, 10:52:25 PM »

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sometimes people think these cars were assembled by robots and computers.....  Sorry to disappoint....  Humans in different plants....  In different time zones....  eating different food.....

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« Reply #37 on: March 14, 2010, 11:59:28 AM »

69/70's are the same way with many different positions. The dealer installed them and not always in the same position even if coming from the same Ford Dealer. It is fun to go to a SAAC convention,large MCA National car show or the Tulsa Team Shelby nationals where the 68's are all lined up in a row and you can look down the line of antennas. You can really appreciate the variations in location when you line up behind one antenna and look done the row.Bob

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