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« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2009, 05:41:18 AM »

The event was covered in Road & Track, later that year:

"The Cobra Strikes Again"

Road & Track, October 1963
Frank H. Bennett


In the article, "Corvette vs. Cobra" (R&T, June 1963), the author stated, "...it is very hard to imaginethat any well-prepared, well-driven Cobra will be beaten this year--not by the Corvettes, and possibly not by anyone, unless the organizers get sneaky and push the Cobras over into the same races with all-out racing cars. There are, as a matter of fact, rumors of this happening, and, if it does, the Cobras just might beat the big, modified cars, too."

Well, it happened! It happened at Lake Ganett in the National SCCA racing event of July 7.

It happened in a grand and spectacular manner, and 60,000 spectators saw the biggest racing show of their lives!

The Shelby Cobras came to Lake Garnett, Kansas, three of them. With them, came Carroll Shelby himself, the man who developed this racing machine. The drivers he brought were Bob Johnson of Columbus, Ohio, Dave MacDonald, El Monte, California, and Ken Miles of Hollywood, California.

Also at Lake Garnett was the famed Grady Davis Corvette team, which includes Dick Thompson, Washington D.C., Don Yenko, Canonsburg, Pa., and Davis himself from Pittsburgh.
They brought four cars; a couple of A-Production Corvette Sting Rays, a B-Production Corvette and, rounding out the card, a C-Modified Corvette Grand Sport.

And there it was, the showdown everyone had anticipated, with the answer to everyone's question--
What would happen in a race between Cobras and Corvettes? And how would both of these American race cars on the challenging 2.8 mile Lake Garnett road racing course, that curls like a sea-horse around Garnett's 65-acre lake?

A few minutes after 1 P.M., the A, B and C Production cars were given the green flag. In less than half a mile, the Cobras has taken a substantial lead over the entire field, a lead which they continually increased during the 45-minute race. They finished first, second and third --Bob Johson, Dave MacDonald, Ken Miles. The Corvettes came in fourth, fifth and sixth --Dick Thompson, Grady Davis, Don Yenko.

Before running the Production race, Ken Miles' Cobra had been challenged as being modified by an oil cooler. Mechanics hurriedly removed the cooler for the production race. Then Miles and Shelby reasoned that if the removal of the cooler put the Cobra in the Production class, then the return of the cooler to the car would put it in the Modified class.Officials agreed, and Miles entered the Feature Race: C, D, E, F and G Modified. And at Lake Garnett a Cobra finally showed its pipes to the big modifieds!

Miles ran away from the field. He drove a superb race, lapping the tricky Lake Garnett course 23 times in 45 minutes and averaging more than 85 mph, to win the Lake Garnett Grand Prix Overall Championship for 1963.
Harry Heuer in a Chaparral came in second and Jack Hinkle was third in a Cooper Monaco. Dick Thompson, driving a Corvette Grand Sport, was among the DNF's, and while he was in the race, he trailed the Cobra all the way.

At one time, he was in second place, but as for his chances of outrunning the Cobra, 60,000 race fans will tell you that it simply couldn't have been done at Lake Garnett.

The cars were:
#97 - CSX2128 - Dave MacDonald
#98 - CSX2129 - Ken Miles
#99 - CSX2127 -
#33 - CSX2026 - Bob Johnson

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« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2009, 05:41:56 AM »

Just a postscript to these amazing cars..

CSX2128 became the "Hey, Little Cobra" cover car, and was also the famous Coventry Motors car, driver by Allen Grant and painted yellow/black by George Lucas.

Thanks to Chuck and Jim, "A-Snake," for some great images.

Hope you enjoyed the story as much as I did.

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« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2009, 06:50:55 AM »

Johnson at speed







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« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2009, 06:55:52 AM »

It seems like yesterday in these pictures. We used to climb over or under the fence and sit on one of the hills. The place as full of sand fleas and bugs. You had to wear long pants and sleeves.

This was a place like any other race track that no one really wanted. From here it was about a 1-1/2 to 2 hour drive. About 125 miles out.

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« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2009, 04:20:46 PM »

It seems like yesterday in these pictures. We used to climb over or under the fence and sit on one of the hills. The place as full of sand fleas and bugs. You had to wear long pants and sleeves.

This was a place like any other race track that no one really wanted. From here it was about a 1-1/2 to 2 hour drive. About 125 miles out.
  to lake garnett ?

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« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2009, 07:39:55 PM »

  to lake garnett ?

ah...I don't think we're in Kansas Toto.

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« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2009, 07:52:43 PM »

yea looks  like bridgehampton

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« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2009, 11:47:09 PM »

All this would be nice to see consolidated, written up with photos and be in an issue of the e-American. Cool

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« Reply #23 on: September 19, 2009, 04:51:42 AM »

All this would be nice to see consolidated, written up with photos and be in an issue of the e-American. Cool


Here is Chuck Brandt's web site with a full story of Lake Garnett.
http://www.chuckbrandt.com/lakegarnett.htm

Links include articles from the Kansas City Star that cover the races and the riot.
http://www.chuckbrandt.com/lakegarnettkcs.htm

A windshield photo tour of the track
http://www.chuckbrandt.com/LakeGarnettTour/lgtour.htm


There are also links to the Road & Track articles in 1963.






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« Reply #24 on: September 19, 2009, 04:54:21 AM »

  to lake garnett ?

To Bridgehampton. I should say at least a 2 hour trip. It's way out there. When you go there with no money then you sneak in. Those are the fences you are seeing in the pictures. They are used as temp fences now at things like little league games and such.
Gas was cheaper out there too. Maybe $.30/ gallon?


Interesting if I think about it though. Millville is 2 to 2-1/2hrs. Lime Rock the same. Pocono about 1-1/2. Albany about 2. I guess I'm kind of centrally located here?

At one time they were just a drive in the country and you didn't need a gun. Now you had better bring one? Things have changed just a little over the years?


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« Reply #25 on: September 19, 2009, 07:25:11 AM »

yea bridgehampton was a hike out L.I.E.  but it was stepping back in time , it had not changed since 60s when i was there in the 90s

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« Reply #26 on: September 19, 2009, 08:06:13 AM »

yea bridgehampton was a hike out L.I.E.  but it was stepping back in time , it had not changed since 60s when i was there in the 90s

Yes time had passed it by, but how do you change sand dunes anyway until the "beautiful people" discovered the "Hamptons" and colonized it? Nothing lasts forever but these pictures sure make it seem like yesterday?

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« Reply #27 on: September 19, 2009, 08:47:57 AM »

yea well they decided a race track was more harmful than a golf course  wait till the water tastes like fertalizer

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« Reply #28 on: September 19, 2009, 09:03:32 AM »

This is now an area populated seasonally by gazillionaires and celebrities. They each pay more in real estate taxes annually then my house costs.

They don't want all the racing rabble out there creating noise and commotion. Golf is quite and you play it at "the club".

If you ask me, and yes I noticed that no one is, the track was the only good thing out there. The above mentioned changes, to me prove my point, but, this has become one of the most wealthy and exclusive places there is in the continental US.

I guess that the Saudi oil sheiks there think they are home because of all of the sand? "Remembering will have to do". The pictures are great.

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« Reply #29 on: September 22, 2009, 08:04:30 AM »

What a spectacular story line, the photos make it all the better, maybe some of the other club members can dig into their archives for a few additional photos and I think someone brought up an excellent suggestion to make this an article for the club "magazine" . I understand many of these races may have been covered in prior club issues of THE MARQUE back in the 1970's, early 1980's but sometimes over the years we learn a touch more information and some photos eventually come out of storage. Hope this could be put together, the author is correct, it was a very pivotal moment in the history of Shelby American racing, thanks for sharing it.  A pleasure to read it. Chug a Lug   

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