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Author Topic: 5r097 - 1966 color photo "Rally de Bougogne"  (Read 1009 times)
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« on: December 06, 2017, 11:46:20 AM »

I thought this was a really neat find as the first color photo I've seen in this location/time. There are several in B&W in same parking place.
The added thin red stripe between the lemans stripes on the hood has me wondering if it competed against other Shelby's and needed a distinction.



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« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2017, 03:42:01 PM »

Awesome photo, thanks for posting
Cheers

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« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2017, 11:02:55 AM »

NICE find Rich!     Cool one

Thanks for posting!

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« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2017, 06:17:33 AM »

I see it has Scuderia Filipinetti name on the side:

Scuderia Filipinetti (also French name Ecurie Filipinetti) was a Swiss motor racing team that competed in sports car racing and occasionally in Formula One between 1962 and 1973. It was founded by Georges Filipinetti (1907-1973) to support Swiss driver Jo Siffert, but employed many other drivers including Jim Clark, Phil Hill and Ronnie Peterson. Filipinetti initially named the team as Ecurie Nationale Suisse, but changed it after complaints from the Automobile Club de Suisse.

He also fielded Daytona Coupes. Notice the CS MFG 013 tag on back.



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« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2017, 12:08:32 PM »

^^
That was the last race for csx2602 at LeMans in 1965 and the only race it was painted red that I'm aware of.

I was thought it was strange that Scuderia Filipinetti painted their 427 Cobra, Daytona Cobra, 2 Ford GTs, and their Mustang coupe in that Italian red, but didn't bother to change the Shelby GT350 R from its American paint scheme of White with Blue stripes to their team color.

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« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2017, 04:56:50 PM »

I have a Felipinetti Daytona coupe slot car from Revell/Monogram. Cool graphics. Even has the manufacture #013 tag.



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« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2017, 11:09:10 PM »

^^^^very nice!

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« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2017, 01:37:33 AM »

"I thought it was strange that Scuderia Filipinetti painted their 427 Cobra, Daytona Cobra, 2 Ford GTs, and their Mustang coupe in that Italian red, but didn't bother to change the Shelby GT350 R from its American paint scheme of White with Blue stripes to their team color."

Rich, their red coupe (260 cui) came from Alan Mann in its  red livery (DPK4B), the other 2 Group 1 Mustang notchbacks came in white. DPK4B most probably being the early Feb. 64 protoype , not one of the 2 Liege cars and not one of the TDF cars.

The colour scheme to better identify american cars was sort of unified for racetracks to white/blue some time (I think late in 65),so most got a repaint. That is why the Alan Mann cars also turned up in white/blue later on at the Ring, in NL, in Spa and elsewhere.

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« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2017, 01:42:20 PM »

Rich, their red coupe (260 cui) came from Alan Mann in its  red livery (DPK4B), the other 2 Group 1 Mustang notchbacks came in white. DPK4B most probably being the early Feb. 64 protoype , not one of the 2 Liege cars and not one of the TDF cars.

The colour scheme to better identify american cars was sort of unified for racetracks to white/blue some time (I think late in 65), so most got a repaint. That is why the Alan Mann cars also turned up in white/blue later on at the Ring, in NL, in Spa and elsewhere.

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Thanks for the reply on Scuderia Filipinetti. Yes good point, the DPK4B Mustang Coupe was already red from AMR. It was the extra car not raced in the '64 TDF, but parts were borrowed for the other TDF Mustangs (notes from your site) Next raced by Prius Zund in 65-4-11 in Austria as #97.
The one '64 Liege car that survived was rebuilt for the 65-1-31 Boxing Day Meeting at Brands Hatch (unknown race #). After that I lost track of it.

I had forgotten about the other 2 white Mustang Coupes at the SPA 24hr 66-7-23 (no license plates to help ID their origin).
I've been building an expansive list of European Mustang races from 64-67 (Rallye, BSCC, & misc events), so I should not have missed them.

5r097 appears to show up at 4 or 5 events all in standard Shelby paint, last noted in the GP of Paris 66-5-15. I've heard that Cunningham was the US race car to establish the white with blue stripes as the US livery. I thought it was much earlier than 1965, perhaps in the 1950's.



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« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2017, 09:05:17 PM »

Here's another pic of 5r097 at a hill climb in Switzerland. My files say August 1965.



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« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2017, 09:10:21 PM »

Here's one of I believe to be 5r097 ?  (how many R models did they have ?) at the Filipinetti castle in Switzerland, along with a couple of other Mustangs and a Cortina.

ps: is it possible that's a '66 GT350 on the left ?



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« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2017, 11:49:54 PM »

They had 5R097 and 5R209 and a number of other street cars going through their hands. Not sure about the one on the left in the above picture. Worth to repage the registry.

Rick Kopec had elaborated on the Cunningham stripes influencing Brock to enhance the initial white Shelbys.
http://www.briggscunningham.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/LE-MANS-STRIPES.pdf

I think it is safe to say that after the deal fell through with Ferrari, red was no more the most preferred color by Ford on any of their own racecars at tracks, especially in Europe, so between end of 65 and 66 most of them got a white or white/blue paint scheme.

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« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2017, 09:30:19 AM »

Here's one of I believe to be 5r097 ?  (how many R models did they have ?) at the Filipinetti castle in Switzerland, along with a couple of other Mustangs and a Cortina.

ps: is it possible that's a '66 GT350 on the left ?
Looks like it is. I see a GT350 badge on the RS taillight panel.

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« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2017, 09:41:28 AM »

Here's another pic of 5r097 at a hill climb in Switzerland. My files say August 1965.

I have 4 races noted for 5r097 including the one in the photo from it's first event;

65-8-22 #336 St Ursanne, Switzerland “Course de Cotes de Rangiers” 2nd GT+3000 (1st race)
65-8-28/29 #146 Ollon-Villars Hill Climb DNS (piston failure) Pius Zund
66-4-3 #2 Rally Bourgogne (3rd scratch) Pete Ettmuller-JP Hanrioud -Jean-Marc Massoneri-Bouly
66-5-15 #48 Paris GP 2nd GT Pete Ettmuller - Pierre Jen Hanrioud -Jean-Marc Massoneri

I don't know who the driver was in it's first race.


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« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2017, 09:55:02 AM »

They had 5R097 and 5R209 and a number of other street cars going through their hands. Not sure about the one on the left in the above picture. Worth to repage the registry.

Rick Kopec had elaborated on the Cunningham stripes influencing Brock to enhance the initial white Shelbys.
http://www.briggscunningham.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/LE-MANS-STRIPES.pdf

I think it is safe to say that after the deal fell through with Ferrari, red was no more the most preferred color by Ford on any of their own racecars at tracks, especially in Europe, so between end of 65 and 66 most of them got a white or white/blue paint scheme.

Thanks for the reminder of the Shelby American article. Great point about Ford avoiding the red pain in Europe after the bid to buy Ferrari was shut down by Enzo.

5r209 seems to have covered more event than 5r097. My notes on 5r209 are missing some race #'s and a the date for the 2nd race;
With thanks to help from TranAmEd's "Ponysite" and Kranky, here's the list;

66-2-11/13 #1 Rallye des Routes du Nord, France; rented to Martial Delalande/ Guy Ligier
66-2 Neige et Glace, France Martial Delalande
66-6-12 Rossfeld, Germany 1st Peter Schetty (race 1 European Hill Climb)
66-6-26 Mt Ventoux 2nd group 3, 21st OA Peter Schetty (race 2 European Hill Climb)
66-7-10 Trento Bondone3rd group 3 Peter Schetty (race 3 European Hill Climb)
66-7-24 Cessane-Sestrieres 2nd group 3 Peter Schetty (race 4 European Hill Climb)
66-7-31 Schauinsland Freiburg, Germany 3rd group 3 Peter Schetty (race 5 European Hill Climb)
66-8-7 Freiburg, Germany 11th OA Peter Schetty
66 8-21 #227 St Ursanne, Switzerland Les Rangiers 1st GT+4000 Peter Schetty (SquadraFotex)
66-8-28 #247 Sierra Montana Crans (1st +4000) 2nd GT, 12th OA (race 6 European Hill Climb)
66-9-4 Gaisberg-Osterreich; Austria 1st group 3, 6th OA Pete Schetty (race 7 European Hill Climb)


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