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« on: November 13, 2017, 05:48:35 PM »



Not Mine. $500k for a first year Mustang, sounds like a bargain!  But seriously, is this titled as a 1964 or 1965?



https://www.ebay.com/itm/1964-Ford-Mustang-Prototype/152783934120?hash=item2392a1d2a8:g:dD8AAOSwO7hZ8STz#viTabs_0



“This 1964 Ford Mustang convertible was built as a one off Design Center Prototype ordered by Henry Ford II outfitted and optioned the way he ordered it.”

For Sale The 1964 HF II Design Center Prototype Mustang Convertible.

        This Ford Mustang Prototype is part of Ford History and "Rare" is an understatement.                                                            

              This Mustang is a Home Office "Special Order" build number DSO # 842510.
                                        Scheduled  Build date May 25th 1964.
 
Vin # 5F08D153027 is a 1964 Ford Mustang Convertible assembled on the assembly line in Dearborn Michigan USA. This Mustang was Pulled off the assembly line without an interior than sent to Ford Design Center and received a custom handcrafted leather interior with prototype parts and appointments and construction, one off special exterior paint color and single pinstripe.
          Door tag denotes this car as a DSO # 842510. Home Office Special Order.
This is the only 1964-5 Mustang convertible produced in this manner and to say its "RARE" is an understatement, especially when you consider Henry Ford II ordered it to be built. This Car is a part of Ford Motor Company history and the documentation is very interesting.  Given as a gift to a close family friend from New York.
         The Home Office designated this car as a 1964 and it is registered as such.
I was working in my shop one day in 2003 and a restomoder came by with the 1964 HF II prototype Convertible  looking for an upholsterer to replace the leather interior with a blue and white pony interior. Upon inspection I realised that this was no regular Ford Mustang. I persuaded the owner not to continue with the plans to restomod this car. I sent him away with the knowledge that  this is was a very special Mustang and to go out, call the magazines and Ford  to find out what he has. Fortunately one year later I purchased it when the restmoder came back to me with intention of selling the Mustang. We agreed on a price and since this time in late 2003 I have been the custodian of this piece of Ford History. I have done my best to retain the originality and integrity of the work and build of the Design Center craftsmen. I did repaint it and I repainted the engine and compartment. I photographed everything and was careful to retain the originality. This was an easy car to refinish and did not have any real body damage. I sanded it and the original paint is under this paint job. It has a great gloss and shows beautifully. In my efforts to get all the information  I have been from Southampton NY to Mirage Arizona.  Dearborn Michigan to Seattle Washington. Flushing Meadows Queens NY (Worlds Fair site) to Charlotte North Carolina.  I have interviewed Ford designers, stamping plant managers and Design Center employees retired and currently working. Spoken with Ford Motor Company archives and historians, friends of the Ford Family and even Edsel Ford II. It has been great discovering all the details on how cars like this came into being. I have spoken with many of the great men and women in the Mustang industry and I "THANK" them all for the help and support in my research. Ford history does not always come easy.
 
This is the Facebook page for the car with many more pictures of this car from all of the events it has been involved in with Ford Motor Company. Stories about people I have met and the fantastic history of Ford Motor Company and the United States of America!
 Type in on facebook search...        One 1964 "Early Heritage Mustang" By  Ford Design Center


    On top of what I have discovered, that this 1964 Ford Mustang was built as a one off Design Center Prototype for Henry Ford II outfitted and optioned the way he ordered it. I have been lucky enough to discover that this special Mustang DSO #842510 has "Numerical Siblings" in the original first prototype GT 350 Shelbys DSO #842001 and Preproduction Worlds Fair cars DSO #840027! This fact is proven out by the door data plate tags. I have spoken to the owners of the two prototype Shelbys great guys!  I even was able speak to the owner of the existing 1964 Worlds Fair car ! Very nice lady Mrs Mansell. That car is in the photos
 Furthermore this Mustang for sale is the convertible model of 3 special 1964 Manufacture Ford Mustangs that were tweaked by the Design Studio for Henry Ford II . Basically "One of each body style".  These cars earned prototype parts, leather interiors, special options and special paint jobs in the process. What I found is that the Design Center produced a coupe, a convertible and a fastback. These cars were produced and constructed to please the "Boss". These cars were EXPENSIVE to build and Ford spent a considerable amount of money making this car happen. There was quite a bit of secrecy surrounding these cars when being modified and as each one was modified it was in a locked room at the Design Center and left the Design Center under wraps! Additionally I would like to point out the car for sale here is the first Mustang off the assembly line to be outfitted with prototype parts and interior for HF II. The fact that it survived at all and to be in this condition is amazing!
                     Contact number is 212 470 9645 My Name is Perry Los Kamp
This Prototype Mustang is for the collector that wants a Mustang that no one else has. Special Order DSO # 842510 is a "ONE OFF" Design Center creation. It is beautiful !
 This Mustang is outfitted with a 289 4 Barrel D code V8 engine, dual exhaust, Rally Pac, Air conditioning, two speed wipers, 4 speed manual transmission, Power Brakes, Power steering, Power top. Generator , locking glove box door. special 4 way emergency flasher, and of course the custom prototype leather interior, special wood look wheel, Special paint, with a distinctive special side pinstripe .
The custom leather interior is an "HF II trademark". These original parts have withstood the test of time and are beautifully aged and in great unrestored condition. The steering wheel is unique to this Mustang and has wood look with interesting marbling. The seats are customised with supple smooth leather as are the console, the kick panels and door panels, armrests and rear quarter trim panels. The original "Design Center" interior shows well and is beautiful with prototype parts.  This Mustang has the original front carpet.
Paint code on the door data plate is blank signifying special paint. The special color is called Stanhope green a 1940 Lincoln color. This Mustang was repainted 15 years ago and shows well. The original paint is under the existing paint. This Mustang is all original with the body still sporting its original sheetmetal.  The bumpers were replaced with Ford NOS pieces. The tailight bezels and lenses are nos, The gas cap is NOS from 1964 , no cable. This car was driven and has 82K miles.
The Drivetrain is all original Engine Transmission Rear end. Runs well Drives beautifully. A Ford NOS gas tank was installed. Original 4 barrel Carburetor,Air Cleaner and remote reservoir for the power steering. Generator car, Air Conditioning tag reads 1964. Brakes and Booster operate well as does the clutch. I have personally put 500 miles on the car and I do believe it had spinner wheelcovers and a cream top originally.

FoMoCo has recognized this Mustang as a 1964 prototype Mustang and that it is a Special Order DSO # 842510.  This "Factory Custom" has been doing showcar duty since it was built .
                    Featured on numerous occasions at the World's Fair site.
 In 2005 this car helped FoMoCo celebrate the 40th anniversary of the Ford Mustang and the televised reveal/roll out of the brand new 2005 Mustang in NYC. Photos shown are with Diane Sawyer and the cast of Good Morning America in NYC. During this time of the 40th anniversary Ford displayed the HF II Convertible in its Factory owned showroom in New York City. Picture included the one with the glasses stacked to the left..
 In April 2014 for the 50th anniversary of the Mustang, Ford Motor Company chose non other than the 1964 HF II "Special Order" DSO  # 842510 Prototype Convertible to represent the Ford Mustang Convertible for its display inside Ford World Headquarters, Dearborn Michigan. Included is a picture of the Henry Ford II full size bronze statue looking as if pointing at the prototype convertible!
In May 2014 FoMOCo displayed the HF II "Special Order" # 842510 inside the lobby of the Research and Innovation building. Almost all of FoMoCo patents are created in this place.  Interestingly this Mustang celebrated The 50th anniversary of its build May 24th 2014 in this building with the engineers and designers enjoying cake and coffee. I gave a speech to all on Ford history and the 1964 HF II convertible.
In July 2014 The 1964 HF II Prototype Mustang Convertible was displayed in the Ford Product Development Center Car Show. This annual Ford run show was dedicated to the 50th Anniversary of the Ford Mustang and featured a Mustang "Prototype Row"
 The 1964 HF II prototype Mustang convertible "Home Office Special Order" DSO # 842510 was in its rightful position in the short lineup of these historic Mustangs that depicted Ford Mustang history.
The lineup of prototypes started with the 1962 Concept car, next the original Mustang 1963 prototype followed by the 1964 preproduction HF II prototype coupe followed by the 1964 assembly line HF II prototype convertible. The next two cars in this lineup of Prototypes were the Pair of  Shelby GT 350 Prototypes. Following these was the 1976 Mustang II Western Prototype and down the line in years.
               The 1964 Home Office Special orders are all "Numerical Siblings"
     In 1964 there were only 3  Home Office Special Orders. These "Home Office" special orders for Mustangs were placed on Henry Ford's Desk for his approval .                                                                      
                          Here is the detailed list of these "Numerical Siblings".
#1 Home Office special order DSO  # 840027 Was for twelve pre production Ford Mustangs for the Magic Skyway ride in the 1964 portion of the Worlds Fair. These cars were for Henry's friend and business partner in the World's Fair, Walt Disney. 1 complete car Vin # 0004 exists today Black with red interior. This car is in the pictures .
#2 Home Office special order DSO # 842001 was for 3 High Performance 289 Fastbacks that were Made into the original 1965 Shelby Prototypes. One was destroyed early on. The two that survived are Shelby Street Prototype GT 350 # 1 and the Shelby  Competition Prototype GT350  # 2.  As we know these Mustangs were for Henry's Friend and business partner in racing, Carrol Shelby This order was placed early on and completed later. These Shelby GT 350s are in the photographs posted and are at the Ford Product Development Center show for the 50th anniversary of the Mustang in 2014.
#3 Home Office special order DSO # 842510 was for one production Mustang Convertible that was pulled off the assembly line. This 1964 Ford Mustang was built as a one off Design Center Prototype for Henry Ford II outfitted and optioned the way he ordered it. It is believed that this Mustang prototype convertible was given as a gift to a close family friend, at World's Fair in 1964. This is the reason it was registered as a 1964.
The 1964 HF II Prototype Mustang Convertible is currently on display at the Piquette Plant Museum in Detroit Michigan. This building is the first factory Henry Ford built to manufacture Ford cars. Located on the 3 floor it has been on display with Bill Ford Jr Ford GT as its companion.
                        Henry II had three Mustangs customized by the Design Center in 1964.
 All three are considered "Prototypes" as they were Design Center styling exercises executed to please "The Duce".  As you can see there were one of each body style. Each one extremely rare. Each one with a different approach concerning the build. The secondary purpose was to guage the viability of cost / practicality of new future interior options.  
 A Design Center preproduction HF II ordered prototype Coupe in Feb 1964.
A Design Center production HF II ordered  Convertible in May 1964
A Design Center production HF II ordered prototype Fastback in Sept 1964 built as a gift for     Henry's son  Edsel Ford II
One Of Each Body Style. The Convertible is being offered here now. This is by far the Most deluxe and unique early Mustang Convertible for 1964 / 1965  ever made period.  
Thank You Perry 212 470 9645
No calls after 10 EST
I am planning to travel to Detroit near the conclusion of this offering to prep the car for the new owner. I have extensive documentation that will be provided to the  buyer of this beautiful rare prototype Mustang.

US $500,000









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« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2017, 07:13:40 AM »

I know the car - it's legit. I gave it the prime spot at our MCA National a few years ago.
God bless him if he gets anything near 5 large.

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« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2017, 08:26:06 AM »

Thank god that description isn't in the somewhat popular (in classic car circles) single paragraph format.   Lips Sealed

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« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2017, 09:15:22 AM »

Well, she definitely looks to be in good company per the first photo.   Chug a Lug

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« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2017, 09:36:59 AM »

Spensive.....

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« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2017, 10:33:13 AM »

My pet peeve is how he never calls the car a 1965.  It has a '5' at the beginning of the Vin number, so doesn't that make it a 1965?  I'm so sick of folks calling early 65's by the term 1964 1/2.  That means Ruben's car no 22 should be called a 1966 1/2 Shelby GT350.  Head knock

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« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2017, 10:55:08 AM »

All 1964 1/2s use the "5" at the start of their VINs. It is strictly by the date the car was built.  The 1965 production started several months early. I don't think Ford ever called the cars 64 1/2s.

I don't know this car, but he seems to use the DSO/Special order as the basis for the car being special. I'm not questioning his claims or research, but the DSO is not necessarily an indication a car has some special history.



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« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2017, 11:00:08 AM »

Enthusiasts have been calling them 64 1/2's since the beginning of time.
There is no comparison to another early car bc nothing else we care about would have been available in an April time frame the calendar year before.
Not that I can think of anyway.

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« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2017, 12:07:13 PM »

The '1/2' designation wasn't anything new, Ford had used it previously.  There are many differences between generator and alternator cars, including engine codes, interior codes, etc... Ford even reset the unit numbers in the VIN when going from generator to alternator.  So, it's not really just a made up thing for folks to get more attention, it actually is a legitimate/needed thing.  They are still '1965' on paper, but that's pretty much it.

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« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2017, 12:16:34 PM »

Well, she definitely looks to be in good company per the first photo.   Chug a Lug

Yeah my eyes wandered to the white beauty near her also  Chug a Lug

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« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2017, 02:29:54 PM »

My pet peeve is how he never calls the car a 1965.  It has a '5' at the beginning of the Vin number, so doesn't that make it a 1965?  I'm so sick of folks calling early 65's by the term 1964 1/2.  That means Ruben's car no 22 should be called a 1966 1/2 Shelby GT350.  Head knock

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« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2017, 02:30:44 PM »

Yeah my eyes wandered to the white beauty near her also  Chug a Lug

AMEN!!!  Cool one Party on

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« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2017, 09:55:10 PM »

I thought this car was Black? I have a Mustang Monthly or one of the others show casing this car. Could have sworn it was Black.
Anyone else?

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« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2017, 10:31:52 PM »

You may be thinking of Henry Ford's II ? coupe, which was black, it also had leather interior , but this is just from memory. I was kind of hoping there were two white beauties in the photo  Undecided  I  have spoken to this seller in the past, but I will reach out to him again. I am not sure why he feels three Mustangs started the GT350 project and one was destroyed , the numbers he gives them are also switched around, we know them now as 5R001, 5R002 and 5S003.

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« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2017, 06:59:40 AM »

Enthusiasts have been calling them 64 1/2's since the beginning of time.
There is no comparison to another early car bc nothing else we care about would have been available in an April time frame the calendar year before.
Not that I can think of anyway.

The 1969 Mark III was introduced in April of 1968 as a 1969 model however the early ones have never been referred to as 1968 1/2. They had some differences from the later in the year production units. For one thing the early units did not have headrest seat backs.

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