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« Reply #30 on: December 06, 2017, 02:15:17 PM »

With the super fires in Ventura, CA the 405 is closed and there is a major mess on one of the busiest stretches in the nation.

Don't tell me that their referring to the current fires down south as "super fires"  Huh???    Roll Eyes Guess when it's in your back yard then its bigger

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« Reply #31 on: December 06, 2017, 08:26:17 PM »

Size in acreage and number of structures destroyed and continuing intensity pretty devastating.  Not as alarge as some of the summer forest fires but large in property loss scale.  Hope none of our SoCal people are affected.  Looks as intense as Sonoma/Napa fire.

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« Reply #32 on: December 06, 2017, 09:35:22 PM »

This week the DC area opened up the HOV lanes on I66 for anyone with a E-Z pass   Itís a variable toll based on traffic.
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I've got a Chevy Volt. They let me use the fast-trak/carpool lane with one person for free. I also get free charging at work. And they wonder why I don't retire. They keep passing out free money I'll keep showing up.

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« Reply #33 on: December 07, 2017, 12:05:25 AM »

Size in acreage and number of structures destroyed and continuing intensity pretty devastating. ..........

Not even close on acreage in comparison to the great fires - 3,000,000 acres is the typical size of the largest wild land fires recorded in US

Most deaths I could find was 1,700 people in one wild fire.

Still about 15% of the size of the Oakland Hills fire, was on duty the second & third day and didn't get to go. It took 25 lives and almost 3500 homes

Pretty sure we can find many with more structures or dollar losses (corrected for inflation)  still this as with others will be devastating for all involved. Hope friends and members in the south get out of its way and heed any warnings and not wait. Thoughts and prayers for those in harms way

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« Reply #34 on: December 07, 2017, 06:38:58 AM »

Quote from: J_Speegle link=topic=41764 Cry.msg323156#msg323156 date=1512594917
Don't tell me that their referring to the current fires down south as "super fires"  Huh???    Roll Eyes Guess when it's in your back yard then its bigger
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« Reply #35 on: December 07, 2017, 08:38:41 AM »

In my opinion - It makes no difference if the home is worth $100,000 or $1,000,000 it is devastating no matter when one lives.  Letís try to remember the people it affects and not the cost of things.  And, yes I live in California and of course the fire zone.

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« Reply #36 on: December 07, 2017, 10:10:16 AM »

What is the causation of all these Fires?

Yes, I know some will blame Climate Change, I want to know what was the source of the spark? They never mention that on the news.

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« Reply #37 on: December 07, 2017, 10:24:10 AM »

In So Cal we don't have seasons just the changing apocalypse. Freeway traffic, wild fires earthquakes floods and race riots. I'm waiting for the locusts.

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« Reply #38 on: December 07, 2017, 10:34:50 AM »

What is the causation of all these Fires?

Yes, I know some will blame Climate Change, I want to know what was the source of the spark? They never mention that on the news.
.         That is often impossible to determine...with the extremely low humidity we are currently experiencing and...more importantly ...the sometimes hurricane strength Santa Anaís (which functions almost like a turbo/supercharger if you will)..almost anything can be an ignition source...stray cigarette,off road vehicle exhaust,etc.....with these winds once you get a significant fire ignited it is almost impossible to contain....hope that these winds subside!!!

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« Reply #39 on: December 07, 2017, 11:28:04 AM »

What is the causation of all these Fires?


There are many different reasons and even without man's influence they have been taking place for at least thousands of years if not from the beginning of time. 

With current technology they can often determine the possible cause often with the use of satellite. Since things are going to happen more time, effort and restrictions IMHO need to focus on the limiting or elimination of wildland interface building & allowing clearing of bush and fuel. Many of the old fire roads (these allowed quick access and at times barriers to the spread of fires while they were small) have been eliminated due to the Sierra club and others efforts.  This combined with many other things, funding, luck, allowing some fires to just burn (its part of the cycle)  may help to reduce but we will never eliminate fire no more than we can earth quakes, tornado's and other "natural" causes.

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« Reply #40 on: December 07, 2017, 02:11:01 PM »

Highway 101, the main "Freeway" north along the coast has been closed in both directions on and off during this fire between Ventura and Carpinteria.  If I need to evacuate my home in Carpinteria, going north is probably my only option.  Freeway traffic is fairly light going north, most likely due to 101 closures.

Highway 150, which is on the southeast boarder of Carpinteria is closed due to the fire.  Currently, the fire has been as close as 5 miles away as the crow flies.  Have not received any evacuation warnings as of this hour and fortunately the wind is very light.  My only option, depending on Highway 101 status, might be taking my cars north.  I have a place down in Ventura, but not sure I can make it there and get back home.

As far as the fire's origin, there is a campground near the starting point of the fire.  No official word at this time.

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« Reply #41 on: December 07, 2017, 03:31:42 PM »

Thoughts and prayers for all affected. Seeing it on the news makes you realize how lucky most of us are and how quickly we can be humbled by things like fires, earthquakes,floods, hurricanes and other disasters

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« Reply #42 on: December 07, 2017, 07:32:48 PM »

Highway 101, the main "Freeway" north along the coast has been closed in both directions on and off during this fire between Ventura and Carpinteria.  If I need to evacuate my home in Carpinteria, going north is probably my only option.  Freeway traffic is fairly light going north, most likely due to 101 closures.

Highway 150, which is on the southeast boarder of Carpinteria is closed due to the fire.  Currently, the fire has been as close as 5 miles away as the crow flies.  Have not received any evacuation warnings as of this hour and fortunately the wind is very light.  My only option, depending on Highway 101 status, might be taking my cars north.  I have a place down in Ventura, but not sure I can make it there and get back home.

As far as the fire's origin, there is a campground near the starting point of the fire.  No official word at this time.

That is just nasty, especially if trying to get north to Santa Barbara are and having to go inland and the to the coast.  What a mess.

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« Reply #43 on: December 08, 2017, 12:53:28 PM »

...the sometimes hurricane strength Santa Anaís
Sometime in the 70s they changed the name to Santa Ana winds to describe the dry/hot winds that blow from the desert westward across SoCal. They were originally called Santana by the native people which translated to Devil Wind and is much more descriptive of them.

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« Reply #44 on: December 11, 2017, 12:57:11 PM »

  The same danger ( with these winds) has been around for hundreds of years. Locals become oblivious to the threat and freak out ( like it is a rare occurrence) when it happens. Most often they are hot winds and drive the Dec temps into the 90+ range making the problem worse.  There are specific problem areas where semi trucks are blow of of their wheels , rip roofs off of houses etc. One spark or cigarette causes things like this to happen along with the sick people who enjoy starting fires. Arson is fairly common out here (sadly) , MANY innocent victims , both human and animal.

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