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Author Topic: '66 GT350 side scoop blind mounting rivets  (Read 1282 times)
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« on: September 15, 2017, 04:36:18 PM »

I'm I correct in: 1/8" blind rivets with a back up washer on front top and bottom rivet only, all rivets not painted after install? Thanks in advance

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« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2017, 08:27:39 PM »

Hi Kram350,

One eighth sounds right with washer.  But which side they are installed is a function of when the car was built.  Early cars, the rivets are installed from inside the car with interior removed.  Later cars from outside.  This was a cost/labor savings not having to remove the interior to install the duct fittings and ducts.

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http://saacforum.com/index.php?topic=27408.0

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« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2017, 09:11:38 PM »

Think Cory is referring to the duct ends rather than the scoops themselves.

It would be nice to know what car or time period of car your asking but typically scoop rivets installed from the inside with washers only on the first rivet - one top one bottom. not painted or blacked out after installation

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« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2017, 11:53:30 PM »

Think Cory is referring to the duct ends rather than the scoops themselves.

It would be nice to know what car or time period of car your asking but typically scoop rivets installed from the inside with washers only on the first rivet - one top one bottom. not painted or blacked out after installation

Yes, Jeff, the duct fitting or ends.  Thanks for the clarification.

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« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2017, 12:53:03 AM »

Think Cory is referring to the duct ends rather than the scoops themselves.

It would be nice to know what car or time period of car your asking but typically scoop rivets installed from the inside with washers only on the first rivet - one top one bottom. not painted or blacked out after installation

Thats exactly what I have, only rivets on 1st top and bottom. Still holding sort of tight.. not bad for a few years on Chug a Lug

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« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2017, 10:39:07 AM »

Hi Jeff,

If the later cars got the duct fittings and rivets installed from the outside the car, wouldn't that mean the rivets on the scoops were also from outside the car? Does that mean there are only two rivets on the leading inside flanges of the scoops?

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« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2017, 11:08:44 AM »

Hi Jeff,

If the later cars got the duct fittings and rivets installed from the outside the car, wouldn't that mean the rivets on the scoops were also from outside the car? Does that mean there are only two rivets on the leading inside flanges of the scoops?

Yes the very late (approx last 10% of the production) the scoops were retained from the outside surface. Not sure of  the style ot type of retainer as I've never removed one from an original just have picture    Camera     Chug a Lug

As mentioned the OP should have included what car he was asking about to get a focused, exact response to his question

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« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2017, 01:42:13 PM »





2020 (late april early may ford build) has its original scoops and duct fittings and they are all mounted with rivets applied from the inside.
also can confirm one washer top and bottom that the leading rivets for the scoops pull up on.
I doubt same type of rivets would have been used to secure the scoop from the outside.
Also Jeff, if interiors were not pulled on last 10% or so that would mean that the rail used to retain the bottom of the the fibre glass panel would still be present and not removed.( you once questioned that 2020s was still present) Interior would have been pulled on 2020.
So quarter window was fitted with interior sail panel in place on those (? ) last 10% of production?

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« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2017, 07:13:31 PM »

Car is 2072. I was only speaking of the side scoop rivets, not the hose attachment to the body. So... no black out paint on the exposed rivet(s) and washer(s).

Not sure how you would attach a side scoop to the body with a blind rivet from the outside? Would need to be a pretty slim pop rivet gun and special rivet?  I thought I read somewhere that S/A was thinking of bonding scoops on, which would negate the rivet thing altogether?

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« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2017, 10:01:06 PM »

I'm I correct in: 1/8" blind rivets with a back up washer on front top and bottom rivet only, all rivets not painted after install? Thanks in advance

Short answer to this question is yes.  Chug a Lug

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« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2017, 01:36:51 AM »

2020 (late april early may ford build) has its original scoops and duct fittings and they are all mounted with rivets applied from the inside.
also can confirm one washer top and bottom that the leading rivets for the scoops pull up on.
I doubt same type of rivets would have been used to secure the scoop from the outside.
Also Jeff, if interiors were not pulled on last 10% or so that would mean that the rail used to retain the bottom of the the fibre glass panel would still be present and not removed.( you once questioned that 2020s was still present) Interior would have been pulled on 2020.
So quarter window was fitted with interior sail panel in place on those (? ) last 10% of production?

Thanks,
Darryll


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« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2017, 02:08:47 PM »

^^^^^
Thanks Jeff, clears up our previous discussion, all good

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« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2017, 07:02:57 PM »

From the discussion above , the sheet metal rail used to retain the bottom of the the interior fibre glass panel should or should not be present?

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« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2017, 09:30:04 PM »

From the discussion above , the sheet metal rail used to retain the bottom of the the interior fibre glass panel should or should not be present?

If you remove it then there is no place for the interior side panel, sail panel and the thin trim piece to attach to

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« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2017, 08:34:05 AM »

   6S477 has 3/16ths rivets on the bottom row of the driver's side scoop.  I know they are original because was the first one to take it off of the car 40 + years ago. The other side is all 1/8th. Strange things happened back then.

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