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Author Topic: 65/66 G.T. 350 Rear Badge  (Read 3308 times)
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« on: September 11, 2017, 08:47:33 AM »

i agree i have been slowly removing all repo parts on my car and trying to replace them with NOS, restored or rebuilt original stuff i saved.
Here's a picture of the difference between a Scott Drake and an original rear emblem. I redid the original

Steve - This photo of yours:




...got me wondering about the rear badges that I have, and I would like to learn more about the middle one:



The top one is the original one that I took off my car in 1976. It is .125 thick x 15/16 wide x 4 7/16 long. It has square edges, and the back side has grind marks on it. I had repainted the the letters/numbers back then, as they were all faded out like Steve's.

The second one is also .125 thick x 15/16 wide x 4 7/16 long. But it has beveled edges, a back side with a smooth cast surface and two shallow 1/8 dia. pockets on the side of each stud.

The bottom one is .110 thick x 7/8 wide x 4 1/4 long and has a gold tint to it.

I see now that the bottom one is a repo (even though I've had it for a very long time), as it's like the Scott Drake version in Steve's photo at the top.

But what about the middle one? I still have the receipt from Cobra Performance - Sacramento, CA (dated 2/25/77) for a "Rear Deck Emblem" for $5.35!! That's the one I have on my car now, and if memory serves, it came in a FORD box with the part number flap torn off. I had the middle badge in a 'FORD Service Parts' envelope (with no part number on it) so I don't know if it actually came in that envelope or not. But I've had it since the same time period as the one I got from Cobra Performance.

So, did FORD actually service these rear badges back then, or is the middle one an early aftermarket repo badge??

Thanks,
Kieth


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« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2017, 09:39:14 AM »

   Keith,
      The second one you have is a later production/early service part. I bought several from The late Ray Wolfe from "leftover inventory" he had from SAI. When SAI at LAX closed up , his shop 'Ray's High Performance" became the go to place for genuine parts for us locals. NOS race engines , transmissions, diffs , 32 or 34 gallon gas tanks, hoods , shocks , wheels, virtually every part ( including unused '66 vin tags) could be bought from Ray.

     The bottom piece is a repro done by Bill Norton at Valley Ford . I have no idea why he made them smaller.

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« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2017, 11:24:02 AM »

   Keith,
      The second one you have is a later production/early service part. I bought several from The late Ray Wolfe from "leftover inventory" he had from SAI. When SAI at LAX closed up , his shop 'Ray's High Performance" became the go to place for genuine parts for us locals. NOS race engines , transmissions, diffs , 32 or 34 gallon gas tanks, hoods , shocks , wheels, virtually every part ( including unused '66 vin tags) could be bought from Ray.

     The bottom piece is a repro done by Bill Norton at Valley Ford . I have no idea why he made them smaller.

Randy,

GREAT information about my badges, Thanks for the help!

Kieth



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« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2017, 12:46:31 PM »

Great info Randy!

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« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2017, 01:32:34 PM »

so, pookie worked for cobra performance?? phred

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« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2017, 03:55:07 PM »

Old thread from 2008 about these: http://saacforum.com/index.php?topic=1453.0

The one on my 66 is exactly like the middle one in Kieth's photo. I bought it from Branda in 1987 so assume it's a repop unless he was selling service parts back then...

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« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2017, 04:25:17 PM »

so, pookie worked for cobra performance?? phred

Pookie ran the shop!   Hysterical

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« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2017, 07:30:29 AM »

     Cobra Performance was started by Gordon Gimble who owned ( among other SAI cars ) a USRRC  Cobra.  Gordon bought the remnants of Autosport Industries , the marketer of Shelby items . His "profession" was captain of huge cargo/tanker ships which left him away from the business for extended time . It closed in the 80's IIRC. Gordon still vintage races and owns a few SAI vehicles.

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« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2017, 08:30:39 AM »

Are these original plates obtainable? Mine is lost in my shop and can't find it. Would like to purchase an original.
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« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2017, 01:22:05 PM »

There were also some NOS Ford service parts made with no pins (adhesive backed) if I recall.  There is one on one of my tool boxes that I stuck on there probably 25 or 30 years ago.

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« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2017, 02:22:25 PM »

  Brant ,
       The ones without pins were "aftermarket" ( though made by the original vendor).  Ford  would have had to change the part number if the pins were removed. I remember when they came "on the scene" LOL.

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« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2017, 08:33:55 AM »

Here's the backside of the middle badge in my group photo:



Would someone with a S1MS-16229-A FORD badge confirm that this is what I have?

Thanks,
Kieth

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« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2017, 08:55:29 AM »

I gathered up some that I have and it is interesting to see that the Scott Drake repos on the one end are three slightly different sizes. I find that I have extras of the later factory version with the 2 mold marks on ether side of the pin. PM me if you need one.  Chug a Lug



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« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2017, 08:59:44 AM »

I gathered up some that I have and it is interesting to see that the Scott Drake repos on the one end are three slightly different sizes. I find that I have extras of the later factory version with the 2 mold marks on ether side of the pin. PM me if you need one.  Chug a Lug
The diecast mold marks on ether side of the pin indicate the more expensive mold used. It is my understanding that the diecast mold was economical for larger runs but not so much for smaller runs because of the initial higher cost of the mold . Ford would use diecast molds commonly for consistency I expect and all of the pennies saved added up at the end of the run too I suppose.

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« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2017, 09:28:05 AM »

I gathered up some that I have and it is interesting to see that the Scott Drake repos on the one end are three slightly different sizes. I find that I have extras of the later factory version with the 2 mold marks on ether side of the pin. PM me if you need one.  Chug a Lug

It also looks like the 3 Scott Drake Emblems have the Pins in slightly different locations, looking at just the SD Emblems.

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