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« on: August 30, 2017, 11:48:58 AM »

Is it worth tracking down date coded Konis and having them restored and installed on #1124. My car is fairly original though the original shocks were replaced with incorrect white ones. Also what would be the correct date(s). All thoughts/suggestions would be great.

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« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2017, 11:57:54 AM »

Believe the current belief and documentation that by the time your car was built  (6S1124)  they had stopped installing Konis

So your looking for adjustable Gabriel shocks instead. These will be the FoMoCo script blue shocks you see on some cars. Examples may (due to the PhotoBucket issue maybe not) be found using the search feature. If not we can post again

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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2017, 12:15:36 PM »

Is it worth tracking down date coded Konis and having them restored and installed on #1124. My car is fairly original though the original shocks were replaced with incorrect white ones. Also what would be the correct date(s). All thoughts/suggestions would be great.

Hi Jay,

Even if you find an original set with a nice date code for restoration, you may not be happy with the restoration.  The KONI authorized rebuild shops do not use the old upper seal configuration any more, but the more modern sealing.  A restored period corrected KONI will not have that original look.  It will be also a lot of money for an incorrect looking shock.  You might be better off buying a later version, 1970 or so that is NOS, replace the Triangle sticker with the winged decal and call it good.  If you had to pick date code or period configuration, I'd recommend the later.  From what Jeff is saying, this would then be a day 2 modification.

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« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2017, 08:32:40 AM »

Great info guys! I was wondering about this for my 6S1283.
Thanks!

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« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2017, 11:39:41 AM »

After all the info and help from yawl on this board.... I am going for new orange Konis. They aren't right, but they are the best ones for the job and since I drive the heck out of my car..... problem solved. Thanks for all your help

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« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2017, 03:12:12 PM »

drive it like you stole it or "dad" lent it to you for the evening, you'll never regret it

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« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2017, 06:27:53 AM »

Just installed a set of "newer style" front Konis and some old rear Konis that I had just lying around here on 6S1732.

Those, along with a set of the new leaf spring that we sell, made a huge difference in the way the car handles and the stance is perfect...should have done it a while back!



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« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2017, 11:03:23 PM »

Hi Guys,
  I had the same dilemma with the stock shock rebuild on 5s444.   Ultimately, my date coded Konis went to Koni America via Craig Conley for a complete rebuild with new style shafts & seals for the front shocks.   They came back with the thin sheet-metal top eyelets that just looked wrong compared to the original eyelets you see when you open the hood.   So, since my original shafts were returned with the rebuilds, I went to my local shock fabricator and had the thin eyelets on the new front shafts cutoff,  did the same to the thick eyelets on the old shafts, and with a shock jig, did a TIG weld pass to hold the thick eyelets to the new shafts, and then went over the TIG weld with a MIG weld to mimic the original weld technique that Koni used when the shocks were originally manufactured.   Yes, it was a lot of work and $.  After the modification, Conley's shop Paradise Wheels prepped all the shocks for paint, added the correct Koni orange, and new decals, and the end result speaks for itself.   I have attached a couple of photos showing the completed work prior to paint.  I can post more photos showing the finished product if anyone is interested.  Mark



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« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2017, 05:33:14 AM »

Mark,
Where did you find the correct bushings for the early Konis?
Also, the correct color for early Konis is red not orange.
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« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2017, 05:59:29 AM »

Mark,
Where did you find the correct bushings for the early Konis?
Also, the correct color for early Konis is red not orange.
Texas Swede

Bo, Mark said Koni returned the original shafts (that had the original bushings on them) cut off the original thick bushings then tig and mig welded them on the new shafts. Also, I just cleaned the original Konis on CSX2079 and they are that burnt orange color. 2079 has under 4K original miles on the car.

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« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2017, 06:42:04 AM »

Earl,
Mark's pictures show the front shocks without the bushings which is the reason I asked
about where to get new ones. Probably Craig has a supplier for them as I don't believe
Mark pressed out 50 year old bushings and pressed them back in again.
In my humble opinion the 1326 and 1327 Koni shocks are a darker shade of red than orange.
Texas Swede

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« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2017, 07:35:26 AM »

I had a NOS  set of the early shocks and they were not orange like you hget the shocks now,  I almost call it closer to red primer,  or burnt orange,  I had my local paint store paint analyze it and now I can replicate it

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« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2017, 10:01:01 PM »

Hi Guys,   We did use new bushings in the top shock eyelets.  Craig Conley has a source for these, and once installed in the eyelet, it was near impossible to get the crossbars installed.  Conley's shop machined up a special tool to press the crossbars into the bushings without any damage.  Even with the tool and a press, it was a difficult process that required patience and perseverance.  I will attach some photos of the completed shocks, and in the bright light of the flash, the color looks more orange.  Without the flash, the shocks look more burnt orange to reddish.   Conley's shop took great efforts to mix up the correct color and spray the shocks, get the correct decals, and we ended up with a really great set of shocks for 5s444.   Mark



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« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2017, 09:25:10 AM »

Look great with the correct color.
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