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« on: July 24, 2017, 09:04:27 PM »

Hey guys -

I wanted to touch base with you as my restoration of #685 has begun. Over the weekend I pulled the engine and the transmission to find that while the VIN's do match, they match with an error. What should read *8T169220 actually reads *8T179220 on both the intake manifold and the top of the transmission. From what I have read, the intake stamp was a short window of GT500's (late Jan to 3rd week in Feb). I think TLEA was the source and that all of them were automatic - not sure if that is still true, but I can add another C6 to the list. I'll try and link to images.

Anyway, I also wanted to check in about the front suspension. I started dismantling that today and I wanted to see where you guys source quality, correct replacements, mainly bushings. I'd prefer reusing all the original parts and just address the bushings and boots, if at all possible. Doesnt seem like I can just get the boots for the lower control arms - is that in fact true?

Also, 685 has a LOT of red paint on the suspension parts - looks like the coil springs were red, the upper control arm was read, etc - Ive read a thread that had a suspension-part coloring guide, and it doesnt seem like this is normal, but the inner fenders arent read, so I can imagine that its the result of a poor respray. Also, it does look like there is red on the inside of the rear quarter panels too - is that normal?

Im excited to *finally* be under way bringing her back to life... rock solid 190-200 PSI in all 8 cylinders, confirmed that the numbers match, and only have a few bloody knuckles!

Oh - another color question - what were the colors of the oil and PS coolers? Bare metal or black? I cant tell what they were, now they're just filthy.

Thanks!

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1966 GT Coupe - A-code, auto, Ivy/Black standard
1966 GT Fastback - A-code, 4-speed, Nightmist/Blue-White Pony
1968 GT500 #685 - 428 PI, C6 auto, Wimbledon White/Black
1969 Mach 1 R-code with Shaker - 428CJ, 4-speed, Black Jade/Black
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« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2017, 09:23:27 PM »

If I found those stampings, I would call them a match. Its unlikely both would have been recreated incorrectly.

As for dates, no specific time frame has been established for the intake stampings. I have seen very early cars with the stamping. I believe it is not transmission type specific.

The suspension would not have been red. There would be no reason.

The power steering cooler is painted black. The engine oil cooler, found on bigblock a/c cars was Detroit Alpine Green.

The backs of the rear quarters in the trunk are body color

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« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2017, 07:39:38 PM »

Here's a little update on the tear down.

Good ol' Father/Son project -



Empty bay ready to be paint prepped.




This is an example of the red paint I mentioned that is on a lot of the front suspension.



and another



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1966 GT Coupe - A-code, auto, Ivy/Black standard
1966 GT Fastback - A-code, 4-speed, Nightmist/Blue-White Pony
1968 GT500 #685 - 428 PI, C6 auto, Wimbledon White/Black
1969 Mach 1 R-code with Shaker - 428CJ, 4-speed, Black Jade/Black
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« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2017, 07:46:00 PM »

It appears to methe red is in areas that would have been natural metal originally.

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« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2017, 08:29:45 PM »

What is your build date?  Chug a Lug

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« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2017, 09:50:23 PM »

This is an example of the red paint I mentioned that is on a lot of the front suspension....................and another

Typical PO with a rattle can.   Did they paint the whole rear end also in red?  Have had a couple like that

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« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2017, 11:26:49 PM »

2/16/68

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1966 GT Fastback - A-code, 4-speed, Nightmist/Blue-White Pony
1968 GT500 #685 - 428 PI, C6 auto, Wimbledon White/Black
1969 Mach 1 R-code with Shaker - 428CJ, 4-speed, Black Jade/Black
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« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2017, 11:30:59 PM »

Typical PO with a rattle can.   Did they paint the whole rear end also in red?  Have had a couple like that

Thankfully, no. Just the front for some reason.

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1966 GT Fastback - A-code, 4-speed, Nightmist/Blue-White Pony
1968 GT500 #685 - 428 PI, C6 auto, Wimbledon White/Black
1969 Mach 1 R-code with Shaker - 428CJ, 4-speed, Black Jade/Black
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« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2017, 08:41:54 AM »

Looks like a nice, clean project to start with.  Good luck!  Jack

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« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2017, 09:42:23 AM »

This might help your trunk area:

http://www.thecoralsnake.com/TEAM.HTML

If the red paint isn't covering a good amount of deadner, you should inspect the quarter panel to see if it has been replaced.

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« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2017, 10:04:09 AM »

2/16/68

Don't forget to take as many pictures of everything from all angles. When you think you have taken enough pictures take 20 more.   Camera  Seriously, I have about 1500 pictures of my car before I started the restoration and I still missed some details.

I would be interested in see some close ups of your firewall and inner fender aprons.

Chris  Chug a Lug

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« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2017, 06:23:13 PM »


I would be interested in see some close ups of your firewall and inner fender aprons.


Here is the current status, in all her shame and glory... Any suggestions re: rust repair would be greatly appreciated. I have to consider myself lucky, that the rust is minimal for any car, let alone one that lived its life in New England. No accidents, original sheet metal throughout. Shes a California girl now.



























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1966 GT Coupe - A-code, auto, Ivy/Black standard
1966 GT Fastback - A-code, 4-speed, Nightmist/Blue-White Pony
1968 GT500 #685 - 428 PI, C6 auto, Wimbledon White/Black
1969 Mach 1 R-code with Shaker - 428CJ, 4-speed, Black Jade/Black
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« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2017, 08:01:11 PM »

Don't know what your budget or ability is, but there are some shops that are experts at handling these issues while keeping everything 'correct'.  Your car and up to you but it looks like you have a great car and makes sense to do it right the first time.

My 68 had similar issues (as do many 68's) and I opted to send it out. The results are fantastic.

Good luck.

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« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2017, 10:17:43 PM »

Don't know what your budget or ability is, but there are some shops that are experts at handling these issues while keeping everything 'correct'.  Your car and up to you but it looks like you have a great car and makes sense to do it right the first time.

My 68 had similar issues (as do many 68's) and I opted to send it out. The results are fantastic.

Good luck.

I think at this point, Im young enough and dumb enough, to get as hands on as possible. This is my 3rd build ever, all in the last 9 months or so. Just added a 69 R-Code Mach to the to-do list - mind you I've never driven a 428... yet.

Its all about the puzzle, the fun, and time with the pops. I just wish I could figure out a way to not wear gloves and stay clean.

Here's some images of my trunk area with more of that red. Did someone just get a little happy with a red rattle can or is it possible that this happened at ford? I usually look underneath to find traces of original color because who sprays there? Its all bizarre.

























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1966 GT Coupe - A-code, auto, Ivy/Black standard
1966 GT Fastback - A-code, 4-speed, Nightmist/Blue-White Pony
1968 GT500 #685 - 428 PI, C6 auto, Wimbledon White/Black
1969 Mach 1 R-code with Shaker - 428CJ, 4-speed, Black Jade/Black
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« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2017, 07:41:47 AM »

Definitely not FORD.  The red and black are added. The good news is the quarter looks to be original. Someone has monkeyed with the antenna and wiring. Are those dynamite sticks in a cardboard tube or aluminum?

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