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« on: June 15, 2017, 02:33:58 PM »

Let this be a lesson to everyone changing out a water pump on a 65-350. Early and late.
Early vs late.
One not interchangeable with the other.
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« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2017, 02:34:38 PM »

I'm sure some experts will give definitive dates.....

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« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2017, 02:35:27 PM »

Before and after....
Transitional dates etc.....
Let the games begin....

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« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2017, 02:40:51 PM »

Pumps were Change Level L8  if anyone has the Info on that  believe its June 65    some very late 65 had C5OE  Iron pumps.  same change level on the timing cover

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« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2017, 07:18:51 PM »

Pumps were Change Level L8  if anyone has the Info on that  believe its June 65    some very late 65 had C5OE  Iron pumps.  same change level on the timing cover

+1, late May, early June '65 was the approximate transition date.  Without an original engine tag, it is best to go by the San Jose unit number to narrow things down.

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« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2017, 10:00:13 PM »

aluminum with aluminum timing cover

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« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2017, 11:07:26 PM »

+1, late May, early June '65 was the approximate transition date.  Without an original engine tag, it is best to go by the San Jose unit number to narrow things down.

+1 The best I've been able to tell L8 went into effect in May 1965.

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« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2017, 07:00:04 AM »

aluminum with aluminum timing cover

All the timing covers were aluminum.

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« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2017, 09:43:41 AM »

Found a late car. Last 100 cars.
Original engine but early water pump. Kind with no backing plate.
Can't imagine anyone swapping out a timing cover just to accommodate a different water pump.....

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« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2017, 12:18:03 PM »

It really depends on the Ford VIN, I wouldn't go by 'last 100 cars'.

J Speegle might have input from a San Jose production perspective.

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« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2017, 01:58:19 PM »

Found a late car. Last 100 cars.
Original engine but early water pump. Kind with no backing plate.
Can't imagine anyone swapping out a timing cover just to accommodate a different water pump.....

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Maybe that early pump was all the dealer had in stock  when the water pump went south....  the pump & TC were changed as a matching unit

Just one possible scenario.

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« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2017, 06:43:23 PM »

Indeed.

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« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2017, 07:19:32 PM »

It really depends on the Ford VIN, I wouldn't go by 'last 100 cars'.

J Speegle might have input from a San Jose production perspective.

+1 Would NOT go by the Shelby number for this detail - or any of the  95% of details that make up that group  or any Shelby.

For this specific detail you should instead use  the engine assembly date (stamped into the drivers side head decking surface at the front of the block) to provide the best/most accurate guide post for this change over determination

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