Good take on the future of Ford

[98SVT - was 06GT]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH1eoQz9g14

[FL SAAC]

Dealers ... the "Mark Up Kings''

[98SVT - was 06GT]

Dealers ... the "Mark Up Kings''

Looks like Ford is getting in on it too by raising base prices 3-6 grand.

[Side-Oilers]

Yet, Elon just lowered the prices on certain Teslas. Me thinks he's trying to undercut Rivian and Lucid and drive them under in short order. They can't compete with Musk's cut-rate tactics.

Neither Lucid or Rivian are even close to hitting their production targets (well, neither was/is Tesla) but Tesla got here first and has megabucks behind it now. I wouldn't be surprised if Lucid and Rivian are completely gone within two years.

My buddy just got finished with his Model S lease. (He has mixed thoughts about the car. He mainly liked it because it's quick. He has confirmed it's not a good road trip car, due to range anxiety.) 

This time, he decided to try a Lucid...the top model, whatever that's called. Well, within 1000 miles it's already having suspension trouble. A shock attaching nut was installed upside down. Lucid is blaming Bilstein. In the meantime, Lucid is telling my friend to not drive the car. Might be unsafe. 

He's been on hold with Lucid for three weeks awaiting a service person to come and check it out. 

You certainly just can't drive it to the nearly Lucid dealer and show it to the mechanic.

This is the type of crap you get with a start-up. I'd want a car company to make it through at least ten good years, with good reports, before I'd ever consider buying/leasing whatever it is they're offering.  Not even at the McLaren level.

Sometimes, the old stuff still does the job just fine. (Ten times so, when talking about cars.)

[FL SAAC]

Yet, Elon just lowered the prices on certain Teslas. Me thinks he's trying to undercut Rivian and Lucid and drive them under in short order. They can't compete with Musk's cut-rate tactics.

Neither Lucid or Rivian are even close to hitting their production targets (well, neither was/is Tesla) but Tesla got here first and has megabucks behind it now. I wouldn't be surprised if Lucid and Rivian are completely gone within two years.

My buddy just got finished with his Model S lease. (He has mixed thoughts about the car. He mainly liked it because it's quick. He has confirmed it's not a good road trip car, due to range anxiety.) 

This time, he decided to try a Lucid...the top model, whatever that's called. Well, within 1000 miles it's already having suspension trouble. A shock attaching nut was installed upside down. Lucid is blaming Bilstein. In the meantime, Lucid is telling my friend to not drive the car. Might be unsafe. 

He's been on hold with Lucid for three weeks awaiting a service person to come and check it out. 

You certainly just can't drive it to the nearly Lucid dealer and show it to the mechanic.

This is the type of crap you get with a start-up. I'd want a car company to make it through at least ten good years, with good reports, before I'd ever consider buying/leasing whatever it is they're offering.  Not even at the McLaren level.

Sometimes, the old stuff still does the job just fine. (Ten times so, when talking about cars.)

+ 1

We still prefer our vehicles that drink automotive adult beverages 93 octane and up.  Bring us more dinosaur juice !

[deathsled]

Electric cars unsafe at any speed?

[Harris Speedster]

I heard this the other day from a guy in KC Missouri.
He was arguing with a tesla owner at a car show about electric or gas cars.
The Tesla owner was bragging about his car and challenged the guy to come up with one thing that made the gas powered car better.
The guy told me that he told the guy that a big horsepower gas engine car is enjoyable & satisfying, like good sex.

The guy then told the Tesla owner, the problem is, what would sex be like without any noise>> ha
The owner of the tesla walked off without answering,
I laughed my ass off when he told me the story.
Truth be known, he is right !
Smile
John

[deathsled]

I heard this the other day from a guy in KC Missouri.
He was arguing with a tesla owner at a car show about electric or gas cars.
The Tesla owner was bragging about his car and challenged the guy to come up with one thing that made the gas powered car better.
The guy told me that he told the guy that a big horsepower gas engine car is enjoyable & satisfying, like good sex.

The guy then told the Tesla owner, the problem is, what would sex be like without any noise>> ha
The owner of the tesla walked off without answering,
I laughed my ass off when he told me the story.
Truth be known, he is right !
Smile
John

Great analogy for which there is no adequate comeback.