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67 GT500 engine id decal

Started by shelbydoug, January 15, 2021, 09:14:58 PM

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shelbydoug

I know that the 68 and 69 GT500's had the Ford decals on the heads, but i can't recall ever seeing a '67 with them?

Should they have one?
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J_Speegle

#1
Yes that is the way they quickly identified specific engines when shipping or choosing the correct one for a vehicle at the car assembly plant.

Can \be allot of fun applying them if you forget to before the alternator and/or the thermactor pump  ::)

Jeff Speegle- Mustang & Shelby detail collector, ConcoursMustang.com mentor :) and Judge

shelbydoug

#2
OK thanks. What is the one I should look for for a 4sp, no air, no T/E?

Should it have a metal tag also?
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JD

#3
Others will know better if this is "correct".

Also NPD's description of where to place it on 1967's is not as stated and illustrated above by Jeff - I'd do as Jeff says!

NPD - offers:
https://www.npdlink.com/product/decal-engine-engine-id-code-400-a-good/125710?backurl=search%2Fproducts%3Fsearch_terms%3DD-228%26top_parent%3D200001%26year%3D

Looks like this:
'67 Shelby Headlight Bucket Grommets https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=254.0
'67 Shelby Lower Grille Edge Protective Strip https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=1237.0

shelbydoug

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Bob Gaines

Quote from: JD on January 16, 2021, 01:42:01 PM
Others will know better if this is "correct".

Also NPD's description of where to place it on 1967's is not as stated and illustrated above by Jeff - I'd do as Jeff says!

NPD - offers:
https://www.npdlink.com/product/decal-engine-engine-id-code-400-a-good/125710?backurl=search%2Fproducts%3Fsearch_terms%3DD-228%26top_parent%3D200001%26year%3D

Looks like this:
That is a imperfect repro . FE engines were not built at the Lima "L" engine plant. The repro sticker was apparently copied wrong. They were built at the Dearborn /Rouge engine plant.Ether use the imperfect repro or make one yourself.
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

Royce Peterson

Agree with Bob. You can make a better one yourself using a printer and whatever program you use to make letters appear on paper. And as is normally the case the description from NPD on where to put it is way wrong.
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1968 1/2 Cougar XR-7 428CJ Ram Air C6 3.91 Traction Lock

shelbydoug

#7
There is a chart on Fordification.com

https://www.fordification.com/tech/engineIDtags.htm

There is no identification code listed on their chart for a 67 GT500. The Osborn page shows a 400.

Is the chart just incomplete? What is the right code for a M/T?


My P-touch can do a label but only up to 1" high. Jeff's pictures show a label about 1" x 3-1/2" or 4". What are the dimensions of the label usually?


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Bob Gaines

Quote from: shelbydoug on January 16, 2021, 04:22:11 PM
There is a chart on Fordification.com

https://www.fordification.com/tech/engineIDtags.htm

There is no identification code listed on their chart for a 67 GT500. The Osborn page shows a 400.

Is the chart just incomplete? What is the right code for a M/T?


My P-touch can do a label but only up to 1" high. Jeff's pictures show a label about 1" x 3-1/2" or 4". What are the dimensions of the label usually?
The chart is apparently incomplete . 400 on the sticker is for a manual and no thermactor just like in the Shelby VIN . I will let someone else measure sticker ,letters etc.
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J_Speegle

Quote from: shelbydoug on January 16, 2021, 04:22:11 PM
There is a chart on Fordification.com

https://www.fordification.com/tech/engineIDtags.htm

There is no identification code listed on their chart for a 67 GT500. The Osborn page shows a 400.

Is the chart just incomplete? What is the right code for a M/T?

Well it is a site for decoding Ford products not Shelby's. Codes are there just no identified for our needs on this site

For this application (1967 GT500's) the main code matches the three digits in your cars VIN and matches the number on the aluminum ID tag installed on the car (to answer your earlier question)

67 GT500 automatic - no AC & no Thermactor



Quote from: shelbydoug on January 16, 2021, 04:22:11 PM
My P-touch can do a label but only up to 1" high. Jeff's pictures show a label about 1" x 3-1/2" or 4".

You don't want to us a P-touch for the label. Won't even be close in look or material. Originally this was a paper-based label with a clear top layer. Came in a roll and the engine plant would cut off a section for each engine. This produced a jagged edge like you would find on a large (think 3-4" packaging tape) tape dispenser

I make mine using an drawing program to to get the spacing and correct fonts (yes draw each letter and number individually from scratch) import that into published (just find the program suits my need and know it pretty well) resize the design and arrange them so I can make multiples so I reduce waste. Print them in a laser jet printer to reduce ink bleed. After that step run them through a small machine that applies an adhesive backing, then apply a clear top layer then cut out individual labels.

Older thread over on CMF on the general subject

http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=7734.0
Jeff Speegle- Mustang & Shelby detail collector, ConcoursMustang.com mentor :) and Judge

shelbydoug

Excellent info.

The Brother P-touch CUBE Plus Bluetooth Label Maker (PT-P710BT) is quite capable of counterfeiting this label with the exception of the cut.

You set all of the info in a software program and it prints it on a laminated self-adhesive label Here is would be 1" black on white tape.

For the sake of discussion, you could scan a Ford logo and print it to the a label as well.


The only question in my mind would be how durable the label adhesive is?


It isn't any good for printing $100 bills though.  ;)



The other information on the label is the assembly plant and what?
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shelbydoug

On the label, what is the number and degree sign for?
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430dragpack

Quote from: shelbydoug on January 16, 2021, 06:50:13 PM
On the label, what is the number and degree sign for?
Ignition timing.

roddster


shelbydoug

#14
Quote from: roddster on January 17, 2021, 11:19:23 AM
  And the Font style is??

It's probably Microgama bold but you need to match it up with the chart.

With that P-touch, you can select the type style in the software on your PC or your smartphone.

Considering much of the label is concealed by the alternator, close is probably good enough? How many originals have you actually ever seen? Even Jeff posted pics of just a plain FE, not a SI (special interceptor).


On the subject of the metal tag, where does it mount on this engine? I'd think maybe under the coil bracket?
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