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Title: '67 Mercury Cougar Bud Moore Trans Am Replica
Post by: CSX 4133 on April 30, 2019, 03:33:51 PM

For a replica it seems to be well done, with some tweaks it could possibly be run in vintage races or just enjoyed in street version.

http://www.race-cars.com/carsales/other/1478793940/1478793940la.htm
Title: Re: '67 Mercury Cougar Bud Moore Trans Am Replica
Post by: Bigfoot on April 30, 2019, 09:29:01 PM
I have seen a very similar tribute vehicle at almost all the Conventions I have attended.  Same car?
Title: Re: '67 Mercury Cougar Bud Moore Trans Am Replica
Post by: propayne on April 30, 2019, 09:46:26 PM
There are several and most of them use my reproduction decals, but not this one.

Don't believe I've seen it before.

- Phillip
Title: Re: '67 Mercury Cougar Bud Moore Trans Am Replica
Post by: mark p on April 30, 2019, 10:33:08 PM
I've seen the 3-Dog Cougar at a few conventions... but was under the impression that it is the real deal(?)
Title: Re: '67 Mercury Cougar Bud Moore Trans Am Replica
Post by: propayne on May 01, 2019, 08:06:38 AM
From what I understand, the Ross Myers/3 Dog Garage BME Cougar was rebuilt from the remains of what was Tiny Lund's BME Cougar that Ross purchased from "Tiger" Tom Pistone and is considered by various vintage racing sanctioning bodies to be legit.

I would like to see 3 Dog go back through it and paint it the correct factory Cardinal Red along with correcting some of the decals.

- Phillip
Title: Re: '67 Mercury Cougar Bud Moore Trans Am Replica
Post by: Bigfoot on May 01, 2019, 09:14:50 AM
The one I have seen goes on the track
Title: Re: '67 Mercury Cougar Bud Moore Trans Am Replica
Post by: mark p on May 01, 2019, 09:15:32 AM
thanks for the extra details  :)
Title: Re: '67 Mercury Cougar Bud Moore Trans Am Replica
Post by: gt350hr on May 01, 2019, 10:33:29 AM
Quote from: propayne on May 01, 2019, 08:06:38 AM
From what I understand, the Ross Myers/3 Dog Garage BME Cougar was rebuilt from the remains of what was Tiny Lund's BME Cougar that Ross purchased from "Tiger" Tom Pistone and is considered by various vintage racing sanctioning bodies to be legit.

I would like to see 3 Dog go back through it and paint it the correct factory Cardinal Red along with correcting some of the decals.

- Phillip

+1 Legit . Paper trail is good. Phillip as you know I have a major amount of BME paperwork and one of the 289 engine build sheets clearly states "went with the car Tiny got". There are two others that note "went with the car Reid got". Sounds like Tiny got one and Reid got two cars (or two motors).
    Randy
Title: Re: '67 Mercury Cougar Bud Moore Trans Am Replica
Post by: camp upshur on May 01, 2019, 10:54:15 AM


67. Were they running C6FE cylinder heads? Curious to know cam timing if willing to share.
Thx
Steve
Title: Re: '67 Mercury Cougar Bud Moore Trans Am Replica
Post by: CSX 4133 on May 01, 2019, 11:05:34 AM

This car is literally ten miles from me here in E. Tennessee and I've never seen it.
Title: Re: '67 Mercury Cougar Bud Moore Trans Am Replica
Post by: Krelboyne on May 01, 2019, 12:19:25 PM
This should be the 3 Dog car, but, when back when David Tom had it.
https://www.hemmings.com/blog/article/the-sign-of-the-cat-1967-mercury-cougar/ (https://www.hemmings.com/blog/article/the-sign-of-the-cat-1967-mercury-cougar/)
Title: Re: '67 Mercury Cougar Bud Moore Trans Am Replica
Post by: gt350hr on May 02, 2019, 10:23:01 AM
Quote from: camp upshur on May 01, 2019, 10:54:15 AM


67. Were they running C6FE cylinder heads? Curious to know cam timing if willing to share.
Thx
Steve

   Yes C6FE heads.  I have the actual Ford engine assembly "book" for those engines. The majority of the build sheets ( and freshen ups) list the C7FE cam.  Some list others but they were specials with lobe separation changes.
    Randy
Title: Re: '67 Mercury Cougar Bud Moore Trans Am Replica
Post by: propayne on May 02, 2019, 11:49:10 AM
The Ross Myers/3 Dog Garage BME Cougar and the ex David Tom BME Cougar are two different Cougars. The Cougar in the Hemmings link above is the David Tom Cougar.

I recreated the decals for the David Tom Cougar and last I heard it is currently in the Miller Motorsports Museum collection.

- Phillip
Title: Re: '67 Mercury Cougar Bud Moore Trans Am Replica
Post by: gt350shelb on May 02, 2019, 12:34:57 PM
Quote from: Krelboyne on May 01, 2019, 12:19:25 PM
This should be the 3 Dog car, but, when back when David Tom had it.
https://www.hemmings.com/blog/article/the-sign-of-the-cat-1967-mercury-cougar/ (https://www.hemmings.com/blog/article/the-sign-of-the-cat-1967-mercury-cougar/)

dave tom never owned the 3 dog car  / that link is not ross M car
Title: Re: '67 Mercury Cougar Bud Moore Trans Am Replica
Post by: Krelboyne on May 02, 2019, 01:18:09 PM
Quote from: gt350shelb on May 02, 2019, 12:34:57 PM
Quote from: Krelboyne on May 01, 2019, 12:19:25 PM
This should be the 3 Dog car, but, when back when David Tom had it.
https://www.hemmings.com/blog/article/the-sign-of-the-cat-1967-mercury-cougar/ (https://www.hemmings.com/blog/article/the-sign-of-the-cat-1967-mercury-cougar/)

dave tom never owned the 3 dog car  / that link is not ross M car
Are both cars claiming to be the #98 Cougar TA? I was under the impression from David Tom, that his #98 was legit. I have met with him a couple of times at shows. His car has a unique placement of the roll bar, from the other Bud Moore cars.
Title: Re: '67 Mercury Cougar Bud Moore Trans Am Replica
Post by: propayne on May 02, 2019, 02:38:36 PM
^^^ that is a bit of a "sticky wicket" that I'm not knowledgeable enough to get into.

But David's Cougar was rebuilt using parts from the first or "mule" Trans Am Cougar.

That one was sold by Bud at the end of the '67 Trans Am season and was wrecked badly at the first race of the '68 Trans Am season.

Ross's Cougar was built from the remains of one of the 2 (or possibly 3) 1967 Trans Am Cougars that Bud Moore took into the fledgling NASCAR Grand American series when Ford pulled Mercury's funding for the Trans Am.

The car's numbers were switched around during the season so you can't identify which Cougar is which just by the number.

Ross's car was driven by Tiny Lund and actually won the Grand American championship in 1968.

Bud sold the car to Tom Pistone and it was eventually re-bodied as a '70 because Mercury wanted it as up-to-date as possible.

It still had it's '70 body when Ross purchased it.

- Phillip

Title: Re: '67 Mercury Cougar Bud Moore Trans Am Replica
Post by: propayne on May 02, 2019, 03:18:20 PM
I dug up a pic I took of the 3 Dog Garage BME Cougar at VIR around 2002.

- Phillip

(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/134-020519151354.jpeg)