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Title: Quick dissertation on 65/66 Shelbys from Legendary Motorcar
Post by: deathsled on July 24, 2021, 07:32:55 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGKaNHCdKGU
Looks like the younger version of the owner.  He presents very well.  He also has the enthusiasm of a young guy from the 1960s.  Ideal choice to be presenting their cars.
Title: Re: Quick dissertation on 65/66 Shelbys from Legendary Motorcar
Post by: trotrof1 on July 24, 2021, 10:31:02 PM
He states that the engine bay is perfectly correct .... Except for that pesky near impossible to procure OEM air filter element.
Title: Re: Quick dissertation on 65/66 Shelbys from Legendary Motorcar
Post by: Chad on July 24, 2021, 11:14:31 PM
Ryan really knows his stuff when it comes to Cobras, GT40s and Shelbys!
Title: Re: Quick dissertation on 65/66 Shelbys from Legendary Motorcar
Post by: CharlesTurner on July 25, 2021, 12:13:25 AM
Looks like SFM5S262, which was done to Div 2/Concours level.
Title: Re: Quick dissertation on 65/66 Shelbys from Legendary Motorcar
Post by: 6s1802 on July 25, 2021, 01:52:28 AM
You all forget, these guys are car salesmen, that's what they do.
Title: Re: Quick dissertation on 65/66 Shelbys from Legendary Motorcar
Post by: camp upshur on July 25, 2021, 03:00:17 AM

We're finally here.
Most all of the original owners, and the wrench-turning owner/racers of the 60s/70s, with their first-person accounts are dead.
Meticulously over-restored pieces of jewelry being hawked to collections, the likes of which were never seen on the autocross/slalom courses of CalExpo, Lion Country Safari, Willow etc when these cars 'cut their teeth'.
A mention then of 'grp 2, day 2, concours,etc' would have gotten a befuddled blank gaze response.
Not a bad thing. Not at all. Other outstanding period metal has been bypassed by the collector world with nary a mention (or value).
I guess its time to jump on the concours restoration bandwagon. Belatedly!
Title: Re: Quick dissertation on 65/66 Shelbys from Legendary Motorcar
Post by: chris NOS on July 25, 2021, 01:09:42 PM
cool vidéo !  :)
Title: Re: Quick dissertation on 65/66 Shelbys from Legendary Motorcar
Post by: deathsled on July 25, 2021, 01:15:12 PM

We're finally here.
Most all of the original owners, and the wrench-turning owner/racers of the 60s/70s, with their first-person accounts are dead.
Meticulously over-restored pieces of jewelry being hawked to collections, the likes of which were never seen on the autocross/slalom courses of CalExpo, Lion Country Safari, Willow etc when these cars 'cut their teeth'.
A mention then of 'grp 2, day 2, concours,etc' would have gotten a befuddled blank gaze response.
Not a bad thing. Not at all. Other outstanding period metal has been bypassed by the collector world with nary a mention (or value).
I guess its time to jump on the concours restoration bandwagon. Belatedly!
I'd keep that R Model valence in your attached photo.  Totally choice!  Even has the later brake ducts.  They were ovals rather than the smaller round ones if I am not mistaken.
Title: Re: Quick dissertation on 65/66 Shelbys from Legendary Motorcar
Post by: 427hunter on July 25, 2021, 01:48:02 PM

We're finally here.
Most all of the original owners, and the wrench-turning owner/racers of the 60s/70s, with their first-person accounts are dead.
Meticulously over-restored pieces of jewelry being hawked to collections, the likes of which were never seen on the autocross/slalom courses of CalExpo, Lion Country Safari, Willow etc when these cars 'cut their teeth'.
A mention then of 'grp 2, day 2, concours,etc' would have gotten a befuddled blank gaze response.
Not a bad thing. Not at all. Other outstanding period metal has been bypassed by the collector world with nary a mention (or value).
I guess its time to jump on the concours restoration bandwagon. Belatedly!


You can still track your car, they track vintage Ferrari's worth more then twenty times the value of a 65 gt350. 

Title: Re: Quick dissertation on 65/66 Shelbys from Legendary Motorcar
Post by: Greg on July 25, 2021, 06:10:55 PM
Great video!
Title: Re: Quick dissertation on 65/66 Shelbys from Legendary Motorcar
Post by: NC TRACKRAT on July 25, 2021, 07:49:56 PM
Well done! The only major item I think he missed on both was the T-Pan. The video is an excellent way to educate those not famliar with the early cars. 
Title: Re: Quick dissertation on 65/66 Shelbys from Legendary Motorcar
Post by: csxsfm on July 25, 2021, 09:15:01 PM
Not all of us are dead - yet!
Title: Re: Quick dissertation on 65/66 Shelbys from Legendary Motorcar
Post by: 2112 on July 25, 2021, 09:36:27 PM

We're finally here.
Most all of the original owners, and the wrench-turning owner/racers of the 60s/70s, with their first-person accounts are dead.
Meticulously over-restored pieces of jewelry being hawked to collections, the likes of which were never seen on the autocross/slalom courses of CalExpo, Lion Country Safari, Willow etc when these cars 'cut their teeth'.
A mention then of 'grp 2, day 2, concours,etc' would have gotten a befuddled blank gaze response.
Not a bad thing. Not at all. Other outstanding period metal has been bypassed by the collector world with nary a mention (or value).
I guess its time to jump on the concours restoration bandwagon. Belatedly!


You can still track your car, they track vintage Ferrari's worth more then twenty times the value of a 65 gt350.

True, but when one of those super valuable F-cars get banged up, does everyone wring their hands and complain that the car no longer has it's "born-with" parts or do they just fix it and move on?

🤔
Title: Re: Quick dissertation on 65/66 Shelbys from Legendary Motorcar
Post by: J_Speegle on July 25, 2021, 09:46:26 PM
........The video is an excellent way to educate those not famliar with the early cars.

+1 Good generalized intro without getting in the weeds



True, but when one of those super valuable F-cars get banged up, does everyone wrin their hands and complain that the car no longer has it's "born-with" parts or do they just fix it and move on?

Like always it depends on the owner and if it's a classic or a new car. Sound familiar?

IMHO its a similar difference that can be found with a non-race 65  and a non-raced 2021 Shelby's. Also, just an opinion, doesn't appear that there is as much connection between the owners of classic Ferrari's and the new ones as there seems to be in the Shelby tent.

It also could reflect the change we have seen in the old car hobby over the last few decades

Good thing is there is room for everyone - though there may not be enough cars for each of them
Title: Re: Quick dissertation on 65/66 Shelbys from Legendary Motorcar
Post by: JBinAlabama on July 25, 2021, 10:58:31 PM
That was fun!
Before buying one I agonized over the future of this kind of car. Will somebody want them in 2040 when all the other cars are electric?
Not that I care, but I’m sure gas will be higher😂 I better sock away some extra cash for my son to be able to drive this thing
Title: Re: Quick dissertation on 65/66 Shelbys from Legendary Motorcar
Post by: Side-Oilers on July 26, 2021, 05:43:45 PM
Regarding the question if vintage Ferrari guys have the same feelings about things as we vintage Shelby guys: 

This isn't exactly on topic, but most of us have probably seen something like this...regardless of the car make.  The point being that first time owners of any high performance car might have messed it up back in the day.  And if it was "fixed" back in the day, how much does that matter?

I was at a club event at Brainerd one time in 1990 or so, and some azzhole in a brand new Ferrari 348 (not an azzhole because of his choice of car...but because of how he acted) was in the pits getting ready.  He was a real pompous jerk.

The car had one of those "A bad day racing is better than a good day working" stickers on the back window.

You guessed it.  During the open track portion of the event, as soon as he got on the track he was over his head. He crashed the thing on his third lap, bouncing off the wall at the point where the road course transitioned onto the drag strip.   For everyone to see.  He wasn't hurt...just his ego.

After the event, I felt like asking him if his sticker represented his current feelings. 
 
Title: Re: Quick dissertation on 65/66 Shelbys from Legendary Motorcar
Post by: deathsled on July 26, 2021, 08:40:32 PM
I don't mind if on topic or not. It is interesting to read such posts and though I may be considered radically conservative by some, I still support the free flow of information. Thanks for writing that automotive snippet. Very entertaining.

Best,

Richard E.
Title: Re: Quick dissertation on 65/66 Shelbys from Legendary Motorcar
Post by: Helmantel on August 17, 2021, 07:51:38 AM

You can still track your car, they track vintage Ferrari's worth more then twenty times the value of a 65 gt350.

True, but when one of those super valuable F-cars get banged up, does everyone wring their hands and complain that the car no longer has it's "born-with" parts or do they just fix it and move on?

🤔

I sometimes get the impression that for super rare cars, originality becomes less important. With rare cars I mean very low total production of the model.

For special versions of high volume cars, originality of the details is (highly) important, because it's the details that makes it rare. To give a Ford related example: A Mustang K-code coupe is (somewhat) rare, but without the original engine, most of what makes it special is gone and it's just another Mustang. A GT40 on the other hand will always be 1/~100, even after 4 crashes and 10 engine swaps.